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May. 22nd, 2011 11:48 pm Sigh... guess I better go into the Long Version

All right, so here's how I got tipped off about Amy Player's latest ploy (the one resulting in a genuine triple-murder...)

Last night I got an email from Carlanime, a long time reader and commenter here at Tent Moot Crash. She has started a new journal under a new name and has asked that that pristine LJ be kept out of this, but she said to go ahead and share this under her former fandom name.

This is from her other journal, posted on May 18, 2011. I've added some explanations in brackets [].


... I found myself in the mood to read DAYD ["Dumbledore's Army and the Year of Darkness, a fanfiction novel written by Amy Player under the name "Andy Blake," LJ name "Thanfiction"]--try to charitably assume I was doing so for nice reasons, okay? LOL--only there is no way I could spend that much time staring at fanfiction on the computer screen. And then I had a brilliant idea: I would ask for a kindle version!

And the DAYDians are, I have to say, a lovely bunch of people. [The same can be said about Bit of Earth--Amy likes to target lovely people] They immediately came up with kindle-able versions of the fic, offers to convert the other fics, and links to sites that would convert any fanfiction I wanted. I found myself really, really liking these people. They're just nice.

...then I backread a few posts to see what the comm was like, and I'm fairly sure their niceness is being epically taken advantage of.

There's this one post where he proposes a trip to NZ. Someone else screencapped it here.

Then there's a post entitled "For the Fallen." In which he announces that one of the people going on the NZ trip has been shot and killed and they need to take the NZ trip in her honour....yeah, I know. I'm just going to c&p this whole post: [For those of you who would prefer to read the original, it was posted on Facebook here.]

Daydian Friends and Family:

I'm sorry that I haven't been on in a while, and that I haven't been able to get this out sooner, but my life, which I am currently very grateful to have, has rather been turned upside down recently, and not in the usual ways of work and errands and random bad luck parking tickets.

Last Saturday, May 7, there was a shooting in Fairfield, California*, at the house I shared with [info]m_oquinn . I was fortunate to survive having merely taken a bullet to the ankle. [info]m_oquinn was not so fortunate. She was killed instantly.


[This has been reported in several newspapers and TV news shows. For once, Amy is telling the truth: there was a real double murder and suicide, and Amy was apparently shot in the ankle No wank here... this is the real thing].

For those of you who only knew her on the comm, she was [info]m_oquinn . She read DAYD back in 2008 when it had just been written, and lurked first at my personal LJ and then on the comm. In the summer of 2009, she gathered the courage to leave her abusive relationship and became active with us for the first time, coming to my attention when she sunk her teeth into the rather mammoth project of reviewing every single sketch I then had up on DeviantArt.

[Read that again. This woman, Brittany Quinn, had befriended Amy for the past 3 years. Brittany chose to accept and defend the lies that "Andy Blake" told--including that the Real Problem was "Andy's" Evil Twin Sister, Amy Player--and she has just been murdered in cold blood, IN AMY's PRESENCE. Do you see grief? Do you see shock and horror? Do you see Amy bragging offhandedly about what a prolific artist she is? That's what I see here.]

I should have known then that she had my own taste for shooting high. [Indeed, that's a tasteful remark] We started corresponding, and she was instrumental in making Daydcon '09 happen; running the auction, helping coordinate things, and even putting in almost $2000 of her own money towards Daydian tickets. She and I drove cross-country in a blizzard, spent a summer helping [info]magikcat112 and [info]dn_solis get on their newly-married feet, and walked 1100 miles up the Pacific coast with [info]deadskyblacksun . She was always willing to help fellow Daydians and host gatherings, and gave everything she had to others.

[Reminds me of Shireling Sue, who withdrew from college and used her tuition money to help Amy move to LA. Amy is an expert con artist--she doesn't steal money, she talks people into GIVING her their money.]

For those who knew her in person, however, she was a lot more. To them, she was Brittany Quinn, or as a particularly irrepressible two year old dubbed her, M'Bidney.

[Just like the (fictitious) Filipino makeup artist who dubbed Orlando Bloom "Li-Li-O Boom," no doubt. Amy loves to create a sense of intimacy with phony endearing nicknames.]

She was twenty-seven years old, born two days after St. Pats to bright blue eyes, a cinnamon spatter of freckles, and a pile of corkscrew curls the envy of every '80s curling rod, the oldest of nine children in the Napa Valley of California. She raised her siblings almost single-handedly, despite poverty that had eight children in a two-bedroom cinder-block house, homeschooling all of them through high school while teaching herself. There is a picture of her making dinner at the stove, experience clear in her confident handling of the pan and tools, stretching the meat with oatmeal, directing her younger siblings to cut the onions and set the table...when she was five.

[Getting piled pretty deep here. I just received an email from a friend of the Quinn family. There are some elements of truth in this story--Amy usually has something to base her wild tales upon. Kind of like Keizer Sose in "The Usual Suspects." To wit, according to this friend of the Quinn's, Brittany does have 8 sibs and does know how to cook. However, she states that Brittany's mother was an attentive and loving parent and did not force her to raise her sibs.

Recall that Amy's first scam was to accuse her own parents of selling her into the same Sex Slavery ring that murdered JonBenet Ramesey--and how some of the older child prostitutes helped Li'l Amy and other young ones learn how to read and what not. She's applying that same theme here, to Ms. Quinn. Amy has a habit of repeating stories that work.]

By the age of twelve, she had done logging, horse-breaking and cattle-wrangling, been a mother and teacher to eight, and could run a household to the envy of any 19th century homesteader, canning and baking, gardening, making herbal remedies, and making clothes. But she was also fascinated with geology and medicine, science, sociology, and most of all, the wide and varied world of people and their diverse cultures. She was equally comfortable making tortillas as wheat rolls as blinis as steam buns, and she always wanted to meet you, learn from you, talk to you, help you. It didn't matter who you were. You were a human being in Brittany's eyes, and that made you her friend and valuable to her.

She taught English in China, bringing home a t-shirt covered in carefully penned messages from her students, most of them begging her to come back for another semester. When the tsunami hit Indonesia, she traveled to the hardest-hit province, tucking her exuberant curls under a hijab in the only fundamentalist Muslim area and learning the prayers and verses from the Koran to offer comfort on their terms as she helped them dig out their homes and fed the hungry. She was active in multiple churches and aid organizations, and volunteered with the Queen of the Valley hospital as well as donating her skills as a certified massage therapist to several elder hospices and her skills as a licensed California Tax Preparer for abused women at a local shelter.


[The friend of Ms. Quinn confirmed that she went abroad with her church. She says that "Andrew Blake" was barred from services in that church. Apparently they could smell a rat.]

She had her right foot crushed not once, but twice and her nose broken as a teacher of equestrian therapy for autistic children, and sometimes her convictions and generosity meant sleeping on the street, but she laughed off those prices as incidental fees of an active life.

[No idea if this is true. Given that Amy's mother Cyd is a horse thief, having stolen and then negligently killed a pedigreed Arabian mare, I'm guessing this tale is mostly some kind of sick transference on Amy's part].

For four years, she was also trapped in a relationship with an abusive man who also employed her under slavery conditions in his business, where she learned the trade of advertising and audio-video production and determinedly built a network of contacts across the East Bay area. At first, she was wrapped up in how she could use his business to help others and attain more skills that could be useful for the less fortunate, not to mention that she was more than accustomed to a harsh life of brutally hard work. Eventually, however, she realized that being beaten and screamed at, locked out and forced to sleep in storage sheds and closets, and worked 16-20 hours a day to ever-changing standards was unacceptable, and backed by her friends at the shelter, she got out.

[Ms. Quinn's friend states, "I'm almost certain he never touched her in any violent way...jason had a video business and she did help him ..also when jason and brittney first move in together they worked on their house together side by side not like she was his slave."

Recall that when Amy and Abbey Stone got together and formed Bit of Earth (the fake charity that they used to swindle people worldwide), the two of them claimed that Abbey was the victim of horrible abuse--including being tied up and kept locked in the basement--by Abbey's husband Mike. Despite Abbey initiating the divorce, she and Amy ended up getting the jointly owned house, which they trashed. I saw the house--they painted screwy murals in it and left it unsellable. They also abandoned Mike's car, equally trashed, on a street in Salem (I have the police report of that somewhere). Amy also confessed, in her Fake Suicide Letter To Her Parents, that she and Abbey stole money from the Joint Checking Account and then pinned the theft on Mike--even going after him in court to "get the money back!" The point being: Bear in mind that Amy embellished/exaggerated/made up such stories about Mike, and not only got away with it, she profited from it. She is undoubtedly doing the same thing to Jason Eisenburg.]

Unfortunately, walking out the door didn't end the legal battle to separate herself from this man, and after she had given everything she had to the Alberigis, she was left with no other choice but to move back in to one of the jointly-owned properties.

[This would be the same woman who can afford to fly off to China and Indonesia... things do not quite add up here. This is a bad sign actually--Amy usually prides herself on weaving a plausible story. When she lets her stories get flimsy, that means she's aware that people are catching onto her, and she's getting ready to bolt.]

I went with her, trying to help keep her safe, and we almost made it. We had been careful and thorough, managing to stay away from him and utilize all the proper legal and police protections to hold on while the courts did their job. He stalled, he forged, he threw fits, but we kept our heads down and worked steadily.

[Amy always accuses the other party of doing the very things SHE is doing.]

Illustration. Catering. Waiting tables. Murals. Massage. Digging gardens. Running errands. Doing taxes. Slowly but surely, we dug ourselves out from having given everything away the summer of '10.

[Bear in mind that Amy has also claimed that some time in 2010, she and Ms. Quinn and some other "DAYDians" were taking a wonderful hike from (I believe) the Bay Area to Vancouver BC. I think she claimed to be walking the Pacific Crest Trail. Frankly, I doubt she has walked as far as Portland, Oregon to Vancouver, Washington, but who knows, maybe this happened. The point being that we have a number of conflicting reports from "Andy Blake" about this time period--was "he" working "his" fingers to the bone, or frolicking in the wilderness?]

On the morning of the 7th, we ran the numbers, and the news was good. We'd be able to get out again by the first of June, then head off to New Zealand for the cross-country trek, come back to our own room in the Napa Valley, work the grape harvest and bottling, and have an apartment in the Bay Area from which we could finish off the court proceedings. It was all going to be okay after all.

[Work the grape harvest... Shall I point out here that Amy spent the entire Project Elanor event "supervising," to the point that Sean Astin pulled she and Abbey aside and chewed them out for being lousy leaders and terrible examples? I don't see her raising one finger to do the hard physical labor of picking grapes.]

She enrolled for pre-med classes, happydancing around the room that she was going to be finally able to pursue her childhood dream of becoming a pediatrician for Doctors Without Borders.

[This is almost the exact same description Amy used to describe Cherie Deuvall, upon finding out that she would be meeting Sean Bean at Tentmoot. It's amazing to me, to see the same old stuff--same exact words, even--coming up again.]

I said only if I could get my nursing certificate alongside my marketing degree

[Amy is a college dropout, having left Christopher Newport University because she realized it was no fun to do homework and take tests. I went out to Virginia and met with some of her former friends and classmates, to get the truth about the college thing.]

so that I could come help sometimes. It was a deal. I had a client; Bonita the Fruit Bat Counts from One to Ten, a children's book to benefit the Costa Rican Rainforest. She offered to make tea and then give me a foot rub while I worked, because she was too excited and keyed up to focus on her grant applications just yet. I laughed, and said this seemed like a great deal to me, did we have any of that Chinese jasmine stuff from New Year left, and she left the room to wash out the tea kettle.

Footsteps on the stairs.

Eight shots.

Looking down the barrel of a 9mm six inches from my face.

It jammed.

Three times.


[Amy has written many tall tales of her military exploits, as "Jordan Wood," young man on the run from the Irish Republican Army, as a Genuine JRR Tolkien First Age Elf (reincarnated, of course) and other fictional identities. I believe "Andy Blake" was portrayed as some sort of soldier-of-fortune at one point, if I recall correctly. I seem to recall something about fighting for one side in the Balkans or Afghanistan or someplace, then returning and fighting for the opposite side, just to gain a deeper understanding of the ethnic conflict. Anyone remember that one? Of course, "Andy" also has a heart condition that was supposed to kill him sometime before June of 2010. That would probably preclude any military exploits. I just don't know anymore which lie is current.

Either way, this story reads like all of Amy's fiction, with the dramatic pauses and what not. Bear in mind that THIS REALLY HAPPENED; Ms. Quinn and another person were murdered in this apartment. Again, do you see horror? Do you see shock and PTSD? All I see is "ooh, here's an opportunity for me to show off my flair for dramatic writing."

Finally I note that Amy was shot in the foot, through a locked door. I am quite certain that she ran like a cowardly dog when she first heard shots, locked her housemates outside with the shooter, and was probably cowering behind a piece of furniture when Mr. Eisenburg shot at her.]

Calling 911.

Trying to talk him down.

A bullet in my ankle and two in his head.


[Excuse me, but does this imply that "Andy" somehow wrestled the gun away from Eisenburg, getting shot in the process, and "put him down?" I'm sorry, Amy, but you're no Jack Reacher. Or Jack Bauer. Or Jack Shit, when you get right down to it.]

Twelve minutes, fourteen seconds between the first shots and me in the back of an ambulance begging to know if Brittany was alive and getting my answers in the evasive looks of the medics and the overheard chatter of the scanner in the front cab. It was not okay any more.

For me, it will be okay again.


[Of that we have no doubt, Amy.]

For Brittany, it won't. That bright, beautiful, vibrant life is over. It ended too soon, too fast, too brutally, but that doesn't mean its influence on the world has to be snuffed off as quickly, or that it has to end with a handful of sweat-rumpled flower petals tossed on before the first shovel of rich Napa soil hits the casket lid with a hollow patter of false finality.

[ummm, wtf? False finality? A young woman has been murdered. What's the false part? More of Amy's overdone prose, devoid of grief or horror.]

Officially, there will be services for her at the Cornerstone Church in Napa, California, at 2pm on Saturday, May 21, 2011. When we discussed what-ifs, she always said that the Daydians were her friends and family without question, and if you can read this post, you're more than welcome by Brittany's account to attend her memorial. [Gee, thanks for giving us permission.] There is also a request by the family that in lieu of flowers, you consider a donation to NEWS, the local Napa shelter for battered women and children.

[That was probably a legitimate Ask--and it provides the perfect segue into a less legitimate Ask:]

For myself, however, I cannot be content with that. She was worth so much more than a donation card, an afternoon in a starched collar, and where should we have dinner tonight before I take you back to the airport thank you so much for coming.

Brittany had her heart set on the New Zealand trek. Taking primarily the Te Araroa from the top of the North Island to the bottom of the South Island in what she was damned determined would be record-breaking time, there wasn't a day that went by that she wasn't talking about it, and she had pulled in every connection that she'd ever made to try and get her portion of the to-do list done, insisting on taking the bulk of the gear collection because of her wide network and fervent work ethic. She used to say without really joking at all that she'd do it over her own dead body if need be.

And so I will. [info]deadskyblacksun , [info]martimus_prime , and [info]dave_agnew have also renewed their commitment to this trek, and we are going to walk it in her name. [info]kate_lb is also trying to get the time off work to take Brittany's place on the team. Yes, I will walk all 1,864miles with the bullet still in my ankle if I have to.


[Never gonna happen. This is my prediction of the Great NZ Trek:

1) "Andy" sponges up money from the DAYD people for "his" heroic symbolic trek and manages to get a flight to NZ.

2) Soon after landing, however, "Andy" will be "hospitalized" for an infection in the wounded ankle. This leads to a new Big Ask, as "he" appeals online for money for medical bills since "he" is in grave danger of losing "his" leg. This is straight from one of Amy's early scams: as "Victoria Bitter," Amy claimed to be hospitalized with an eye infection (completely false). For this she received gifts, letters of encouragement, and even an autographed picture of one of the LOTR actors (a gift from the Bit of Earth message board on Yahoo).

3) In reality, "Andy" is spending "his" days attempting to sneak onto the set of "The Hobbit," since that has always been Amy's dream: to rub shoulders with Peter Jackson and the LOTR cast.

Personally, I don't know how, in the era of Homeland Security, Amy will manage to get a passport in the name of Andrew Blake. I know she got a fraudulent driver's license for "Andy" in Virginia, but I would HOPE that a phony passport will not be a piece of cake.

On the other hand, I do know how desperately Amy wants to be part of the Hobbit movie. I'm sure she's putting her best efforts into this.]

We will do it for Brittany, we will do it for domestic violence awareness, and to raise money for victims of domestic violence rather than the original plan of the Christchurch Earthquake.

[The State of Oregon fined Amy Player in 2004 for operating a phony charity. Amy and Abbey, under the imprint of their fake charity, Bit of Earth, had been raising money that they claimed was earmarked for the real charity, Reading is Fundamental. They asked actor Sean Astin to host a special showing of "LOTR: The Two Towers" in Portland, which he did. Abbey stood on that stage and said to Sean and the audience, "You all just raised $3,000 for RIF!" RIF, however, never saw a dime of that money. It all went into the clove cigarettes that Abbey and Amy smoked. Amy has been forbidden from any involvement in charitable fundraising in the State of Oregon. Had she made that claim in Oregon, she could be fined $25,000. But she did it in California, so she will get away with it. Nice, huh?]

We will do it in her name, and we would like to do it with your help. In the next post, I will be putting up what was originally Brittany's part of the to-do list. I think that if one extraordinary woman could do it, an extraordinary community definitely can in her memory.

For the fallen. We have lost our first.


[Amy Player is using this woman's death as an avenue for conning money out of the DAYD group. Plain and simple. And appalling. But the very best part is yet to come. "Andy's" final comments:]

* Yes, I know this is the internet, and this seems so very hard to believe. Here is an article about the shooting. Here is Brittany's obituary. And here, if you want to see, is the x-ray of my ankle. With bullet.

[The name on the xray film is Andrew Blake, at Queen of the Valley hospital. There is some speculation about whether it's fake, but the news stories have confirmed that "Andy Blake" was shot in the ankle. Plus, I've seen plenty of bullets-in-bodies X-rays before and it looks authentic to me.

What I find ironic is that Amy has learned from the past. How many fake Internet deaths and injuries has she pulled off now? She was faster than a fecking Ferrari to follow up this claim with credible evidence--newspaper articles, obits, and her own Xray films. Almost as though she knew people might doubt her story...]


I just don't know. I HATE thinking he's lying about that, but...well, BY A STRANGE COINCIDENCE, all the expensive parts of the NZ trip (like booking plane tickets and buying gear) were the responsibility of the dead girl, and now he's asking the others to take over her tasks. Which, if it's true, is incredibly touching.
But if it's not true....


And so that's how I got involved in this chapter. In the past 24 hours, I sent emails to several of the reporters and to the Fairfield PD. I doubt that they will take any interest whatsoever. They have a nice, closed case: man goes nuts over divorce stress, goes on killing spree. Simple and concise. They don't want to know that the man was being harassed by a professional con artist, who did this at least once before with Abbey's husband and will undoubtedly do it again.

I've heard from this friend of the Quinns, who states that "I've been doing some research and saw that amy is trying to do some scam in brittneys name" and has asked me what she can do about it.

I have taken so much crap regarding Amy Player over the years. "You're just stupid and gullible. The fact that you're willing to admit you got conned just proves even further how stupid and gullible you are. You should get a life instead of obsessing over Amy." And of course, my favorite: "Why are you still picking on Amy, get over it, she's obviously changed..."

This is why. Because I could see almost 10 years ago that Amy was NOT going to stop, and that she would seriously ruin someone's life. I felt compelled to try to stop her. Because I've always believed in the adage, "If not me, then who?"

When my mom died last year, I gave up on trying. The DAYDians were so determined to support "Andy," and believe all her absurd stories (yes, the one about "Andy" being the unfortunate twin brother of the Evil Amy Player, what a whopper), and I had other fish to fry.

I knew Amy was going to get someone hurt. I knew she would eventually victimize someone who would get too angry and lash out physically. I expected HER to get her ass beat, or worse. I frankly expected it to happen on Hollywood Blvd, back when she was conning the other street people in front of the Chinese Theater.

Now three people are dead and Amy not only lives on, but she's scamming on, too.

I'm so sorry for the Quinn family, and the Eisenburg family, and the family of the other roommate, Tony. I feel guilty that I haven't done more to put a stop to Amy Player, but honestly, I don't know what else I might have done. I hope that it helps them to understand a little more about just how poisonous Amy is, and how she victimized all of these people, even the shooter, with her con artistry, her well-honed skills at agitating and harassing people with phony legal proceedings, and her vast experience at brainwashing lonely people. They were caught up in something that was beyond their control: the Cult of Amy Player, Charismatic Sociopath.

I hope that when Brittany's mom, in her grief, feels like she somehow failed her daughter, she can use this knowledge to put the blame where it really lies.

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From:lordes
Date:May 23rd, 2011 10:25 am (UTC)
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It's not your fault sweetheart, it is not.
From:ashkitty
Date:May 23rd, 2011 11:46 am (UTC)
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Who the fuck jaunts off to New Zealand for a hike when they can't afford a place to live? Anyway, look--it's not your fault, you've been at this for a long time. It's a genuine tragedy; the problem with preying on emotionally fragile people is that sometimes one of them might just snap. I hope that Jason, Brittnay and Tony's families get whatever closure they need, independent of what does/doesn't happen to Amy/Andy.

But if anybody hears she managed the fake passport thing, report that shit to the State Dept ASAP and that should take care of any more running. They take that stuff seriously.
From:foxykc
Date:May 23rd, 2011 02:41 pm (UTC)
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While some cub reporter would be interested ti dig into the reality of the civill suits and their validity, the Quinn family would no doubt rather not have the general public know that their daughter got taken in by a con artist in this egregious fashion. It would be nice to have universal condemnation of Amy Player however real victims of homicide are dragged into this. The best the Quinn family might be able to do is serve a cease and desist order on Andrew Blake, aka Amy Player, aka Jordan Wood aka the Man in the Moon, and live journal and even then it would be an exercise in futility.

We can probably make an educated guess that most of the litigation matters are false because it takes $$ to prepare file and serve and if they had no money, well, there you have it.

The Quinn's did not fail their daughter, although no parent ever truly believes that. Brittany was an adult, unfortunately she was having some difficulties and got involved with a predator.
From:turimel
Date:May 23rd, 2011 09:54 pm (UTC)
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The Quinn's did not fail their daughter, although no parent ever truly believes that. Brittany was an adult, unfortunately she was having some difficulties and got involved with a predator.


Well said, Foxy.
From:myownmuggle
Date:May 23rd, 2011 03:02 pm (UTC)
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Amy has a passport in the name of Andrew Blake. "Andy" went to Germany a couple of years ago. The ticket was purchased by one of his LJ cult members in the name of Andrew Blake and he stayed with one of the people on my flist. This person smelled a rat upon meeting "Andy" and quickly got out.

But yeah, the passport exists. And the name on the passport has to match the name on the tickets or you don't fly.
From:emmacrew
Date:May 23rd, 2011 05:17 pm (UTC)
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This is horrific. And so not your fault. You tried so hard, and people wouldn't listen. That has to be incredibly frustrating.
From:thehunter
Date:May 23rd, 2011 06:24 pm (UTC)
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Maybe he did a legal name change at some point? Though that's probably expecting way too much...
From:myownmuggle
Date:May 23rd, 2011 11:59 pm (UTC)
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A name change likely based on forged documents. Amy's done it before - see the Jordan Wood birth certificate posted here.
From:thehunter
Date:May 24th, 2011 04:22 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I'll never forget that--or the handwritten "certificate of naming" from the book! That was priceless.
From:sparkymonster
Date:June 20th, 2011 06:47 pm (UTC)
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Transgendered people can get ID to match their current gender. It is also possible for transgendered people to get a passport to match their current gender. No forging needed.

http://transequality.org/news.html#passport

Also, just to put it out there. It is insulting and disrespectful to transgender people to use female pronouns when discussing Andy Blake in the present tense. He is a guy who is a scammer and who led to the death of three people. He also used to be a woman who scammed turimel and others.
From:myownmuggle
Date:June 20th, 2011 09:46 pm (UTC)
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At the heart of this issue with identity of Amy/Andy/Jordan/etc. is whether or not the individual in question is truly transgendered or simply adopting identities for convenience. The evidence in the past has been overwhlemingly in favor of the latter. And this indvidual in question has forged official documents before.

Given what I do for a living, I am well aware that someone who is transgendred can obtain official identification reflecting their new identity, but it requires evidence, paperwork, statements, etc. That identification, be it a driver's license or a passport, if it is obtained through fraudulent means, is suspect. State officials would investigate the forgery of a driver's license. Elements from the Department of State investigate the production of fraudulent passports. Of course, this can also involve a whole host of other law enforcement entities depending on the particular circumstances.
From:turimel
Date:June 20th, 2011 10:12 pm (UTC)
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Hi, sparkymonster. I've heard a lot of arguments about transgender issues,
I will not identify this person by anything but her birth name and birth gender. Period. This is not because I disrespect the concept of being transgendered. This is because Amy Player uses false identities (both male and female) to Rip People Off, and the few times she's been arrested, the records are under her Birth Name and her phenotypic gender.

I believe that the only reason these male personas exist is that Amy found it is easier to scam women when she poses as a male. She posed as "Ciyarra" and as "Victoria Bitter" in her early scamming career. Neither of those got her NEARLY as much money or popularity as she got as "Jordan Wood."

Amy once told me that she had repented, would be apologizing to everyone she scammed, would pay me back the money she owes me, and would prefer male pronouns. I used male pronouns with her for a short time. Then it turned out that Amy was NOT apologizing, NOT repaying the money, and was involved in a NEW scam.

She had lied about repenting, apologizing, and paying back. I have assumed that she also lied about male pronouns. I think that is totally fair under the circumstances. Because Amy has PROVED herself to be A LIAR, over and over and over again.

I don't know what to tell the TG community. If Amy had only used female fake ID's, I would use so-called Scare Quotes around all of her fake names and use female pronouns. She didn't, though--she uses both genders of fake ID's. I feel it's necessary to distinguish between Amy's fake identites and her legal identity--so I use quotes around her fake names AND her fake gender.

I'm sorry if this is offensive to transgendered persons, but I don't know what else to do. The truth is she was born a female, named Amy, and that's how the law sees her. So that's how I see her, too.

(Incidentally, regarding her driver license: She got her fake Jordan Wood drivers license with a fake birth certificate. It was a bad fake, and that's why she got arrested for it. I am TOTALLY sure she got a fake Virginia driver's license with a better fake birth certificate. Creating an ID under a fake name and a fake gender doesn't get Amy any points in my book. It's just more proof that she's a con artist).
From:grannieof2
Date:July 15th, 2011 08:10 pm (UTC)
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It is insulting and disrespectful, not to mention damaging, to transgender people to use the state of being transgender as a ploy to claim discrimination, victimization and sympathy in pursuit of fraudulent and, as we now know, destructive aims. Making this story about respect for transgender people makes it worse, not better, for those who actually ARE trying to live as their true selves.

Amy was born Amy. Her status as a transgender is, so far as anyone knows, only based on her claims. As far as I can tell she'd lie if you asked her what time it is. Not what you'd call an ironclad source for information.
From:turimel
Date:July 15th, 2011 08:56 pm (UTC)
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Thanks, Grannieof2. That was succinct and on the nose.
From:crawfordwraith
Date:May 23rd, 2011 05:19 pm (UTC)
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This isn't your fault, dearest. Please believe that.
From:greenkim87
Date:May 23rd, 2011 06:22 pm (UTC)

its on

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its not your fault..i wish i would have searched her/he sooner then maybe i could have warned jason...as a friend to brittney , jason, and tony plus jason's father who now has to pick up the pieces... i will get the word out of this weird fake he/she hobbitt wannabe...
From:thehunter
Date:May 23rd, 2011 06:31 pm (UTC)
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You have done so much and worked so hard to warn people about this sociopath, and the fact that you've kept at it for so long in spite of everything speaks highly of your character and determination. This is in no way your fault.

I've made (friends-locked) signal-boosting posts to my LJ and DW and warned my Kiwi friend to stay clear if "Andrew" does get into NZ. I think I can count on her to get the word out to others there, if he does.
From:nthdraft
Date:May 23rd, 2011 07:23 pm (UTC)
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sorry for the continued bs you're having to deal with just by speaking out about this psychopath. There's no joy in being right and no satisfaction in watching a train wreck after you've told the morons dancing on the tracks to get out of the way, over and over and over.

the fine upstanding moral authorities of Troy not only didn't listen to Kassandra, they abused and berated her for her warnings, and even after they came true they still abused her for it.

Saying "see I tried to warn you" is not gloating, it's pointing out their own narrow minded viewpoints where they will never admit you were right about AB/VB/AP not even a tiny inch, a sliver. Because you don't speak their auto-enforced verbiage, nothing you say can be important or true or worth speaking. There's no arguing with their aggressive unwillingness to look past their own privilege of denial. The more you tell them the more they're going to insist you can't be even 1% right about anything, so there nyah. All you can do is never let them shut you up, because keeping silent and leaving others open to be victimized by AB/VB/AP is several thousand times worse than not using some chat room's pre-approved pronoun.
From:turimel
Date:May 23rd, 2011 09:58 pm (UTC)
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groooooan... I have a feeling the fanwankers are bitching again. Don't tell me about it, I don't want to know.
From:numb3r_5ev3n
Date:May 24th, 2011 03:26 am (UTC)
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See, as a genderqueer person, I see VBSaffBridge's constant identity shifting as the equivalent of a disposable banner and a truck with the motor left running.

Let them bitch. They're still rubbernecking the train wreck, regardless of what they tell themselves.
From:turimel
Date:May 25th, 2011 08:42 am (UTC)
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still get a kick out of the VBSaffBridge thing...
From:lea_ysaye
Date:May 23rd, 2011 08:13 pm (UTC)
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A bullet in my ankle and two in his head.

How does one shoot oneself in the head twice?
From:beachcomberbob
Date:June 4th, 2011 10:19 pm (UTC)

two shots to head

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He in fact did, it is a reflex reaction to shooting oneself that often causes there to be two shots fired. This happens both with head shots and chest shots. (Friend is a homicide investigator)
From:turimel
Date:June 5th, 2011 01:44 am (UTC)

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Huh. Interesting! In a macabre sort of way, I mean... but I like that.
From:wolfine
Date:May 23rd, 2011 09:27 pm (UTC)
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Either way, this story reads like all of Amy's fiction, with the dramatic pauses and what not. Bear in mind that THIS REALLY HAPPENED; Ms. Quinn and another person were murdered in this apartment. Again, do you see horror? Do you see shock and PTSD? All I see is "ooh, here's an opportunity for me to show off my flair for dramatic writing."

It's easy. When you are a SOCIOPATH. You have no feelings whatsoever about other people, so capitalizing on the death of someone is not exactly the sort of thing Amy is going to lose sleep over.

It is rather sickening to read her account of this as she obviously attempts to put the reader in her shoes so they may share the experience and (most importantly) see how courageous she was. There is no "What the f**king f**ck???" at having a gun pointed at her, or being shot, etc. The glib prose and cavalier attitude most likely hides the fact that she probably ran and hid. Someone like Amy is out for Amy. I doubt she gave anyone else much thought at all until she was able to work this around to her advantage again.

It still amazes me though---how this gal who begs for money and mooches off others---gets around the globe more than anyone I know! I know from my own experience with con artists that there is usally a disconnect between their financial situation and what they will actually spend their money on. (No food in the cupboard, but now we have satellite TV! Wheee!) Still, these trips have to be pricey. Guess you can manage if you know how to get others to pay for it.

It's a shame that no one will listen to you, but honest folk just do not think like this. To them, it all sounds so outrageous it can't possibly have happened like that. And the more bizarre and outrageous it gets, the more Amy's sheep will believe it and the more regular folks won't. I'm sorry to have to agree with you, but YES...if you don't keep beating the alarm drum, no one will.

This was a near miss, but Amy's life will one day catch up to her in a major way. However, she will cut a wide swatch of heartache before she is stopped.
From:yeuxdebleu
Date:May 24th, 2011 03:44 am (UTC)
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Wow! What a fascinating entry. I think it would be awesome if a reporter decided to dig into this and write a book as has happened quite a few times with truly curious reporters. It would be fascinating reading whether or not the reader knew the backstory.

I think the only way Amy is going to stop is if she gets shot between the eyes the next time instead of the ankle.
From:lauramcewan
Date:May 24th, 2011 04:43 am (UTC)
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You've gone above and beyond. I'm so sorry for the real losses here. Those who won't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

((hugs))
From:foxykc
Date:May 24th, 2011 05:52 am (UTC)
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ok. I looked at Andrew Blake's facebook thing and the screen cap and some of the comments and if i were a betting woman, I'd say that Amy is just plain psychotic. Pure and simple. There is no malice there, there is no intent to defraude She's jus plain crazy, believes whatever she tells herself. Neurotics build castles in the air, psychotics live in them (shrinks rent them out). She has an unerring talent to find people who are in very vulnerable or sensitive periods of their lives and capitalize on that. In her moments of clarity, she plots this out probably pretty rapdily and then leaps back into her delusion, taking other, weaker souls with her

Having said that, clearly Amy wanted to push Abbey into getting Mike to throw a punch or somethng so they could slam him in jail. Ditto here, in my opinion, but who knew Eisenberg would be pushed to pull out a gun? Next time the muzzle might be pointed at Amy's head not her foot.

Because there will be a next time. And with enough "next times", at some point her number will be up.

Here's the wild part: wank and deception has been part of fandom since Noah unloaded the animals. One of these days Ms. Player may have a real problem but she will have crapped in so many bowls of cornflakes, that the wolf will get her.
From:beachcomberbob
Date:June 4th, 2011 10:13 pm (UTC)

Brittany's Family's Thanks and Concerns.

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Hello to all of you.
I am Brittany Quinn's Dad and your words of encouragement are welcome and very helpful. This is the saddest time of my/our lives but I hope that by working with others we might put a stop to Amy/Andrew's destructive influences once and for all. I have never written on a forum like this before but given the circumstances I decided to find you all and see what we could do. Brittany was an amazing young woman and one you could not forget once you met her. She was unique and stood out in a crowd, she was a light and joy to all who knew her and she is Sorely and Deeply missed by us all.

We knew from the beginning that there was something not right about "Andrew" but could never get Brittany to admit anything. She went downhill, changed and acted very out of character after she met him. We suspected for a long time that "Andrew" was pushing her to sell her things, borrow money and file court actions against her ex to get more money for "Andrew". Andrew was always whispering in her ear when she had a conversation with anyone else while he was there and had a weird control over her. It reminded me of a little demon sitting on her shoulder, influencing her.
Anyway, FYI "Andrew" has moved to Denver, CO and has started another charity fan page using Brittany and her memory to get attention and money for him. He has a facebook page called "It's About Power" and a web site www.itsaboutpower.org. It is supposedly a site to prevent domestic violence raise awareness and as always some money and sponsorships for "Andrew's" continued adventures. The NZ trip is off and the new scam is a hike "in Brittany's memory" along the "Trail of Tears" in the South Eastern U.S.

As you have probably guessed, most everything that "Andrew" has written about Brittany and her family is overly exaggerated figments of his/her imagination. Brittany does have 6 brothers and 2 sisters, and did a great many things as she was home-schooled with her siblings. But most of the rest is extreme exaggerations, fanciful lies and the self-serving imaginations of this sociopath. Our family is coping best we can and working with the other victims families (including the shooter's Dad, who lives at the house where the incident occurred.) to take care of each other and try to establish somewhat normal lives again.

I will post more a little later, but wanted to thank All of you for your encouragement and comments, it is very easy to now look back and "if only" after finding out all we have about Amy/Andrew since the shooting. All the "I told her so's" and "why didn't I's" don't help bring her back, but using all these events to train our other children will. I just want to make sure no one else ever loses one of their children, family members or friends to this evil and sick person again and try to put a stop to "Andrew/Amy" using Brittany's memory and image to promote his/her scams.

Thank You,
Bob
p.s. turimel, I would like to email with you about Amy and possibly sit down and discuss what our options might be to stop her once and for all. I live in Vancouver, WA.
From:turimel
Date:June 5th, 2011 01:59 am (UTC)

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Bob, I am so sorry for your family's loss. You can email me any time at turimel_31@hotmail.com. I'm in Oregon, not more than an hour's drive from Vancouver. I'd be happy to help you in any way I can.
From:lauramcewan
Date:June 5th, 2011 06:18 am (UTC)

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Bob, just wanted to express my condolences to you on this horrific and terribly sad loss. I do believe Brittany will be with you always, a bird on your shoulder, a hug when you need it.

Edited at 2011-06-05 06:18 am (UTC)
From:ashkitty
Date:June 5th, 2011 12:16 pm (UTC)

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Dear Bob,

What is now a good number of years ago, a friend and a member of my family took up with a similar sort of person--charismatic and oddly controlling, with a strange hold over them--and we were lucky, I'm sad to say, that he only managed to take his own life and not anyone else's. It's incredibly painful to watch as you see your loved ones changing and fading in front of you, but also very, very hard to get them away from the sitation and person that's harming them. But even when you see there's something wrong, you never expect it to go quite so far. I'm so very sorry your family (and those of Jason and Tony) are being put through this. If there is anything we can do to help you all find closure and peace (whether it's to help you get the word out, or to make sure you're left alone to grieve, or something in between) know that there are people here who will help however we can. Peace be with you.

Ash
From:foxykc
Date:June 6th, 2011 05:07 am (UTC)

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http://www.itsaboutpower.org/ is the website Bob mentions. Frankly I think Amy convinces herself that whatever she says is reality is in fact reality.

However can you say "predator". Amy has a rare talent for finding certain people at moments in their lives -- kind of like a snake hypnotizing a bird.

Weird. Sick actually.
From:foxykc
Date:June 6th, 2011 05:47 am (UTC)

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Glanced over the its about power thing briefly-- looks like Andrew Blake has renamed himself if you look at the bottom about who the web designer is. Also the description of an abuser describes Amy herself. It is in fact about power isn't it?
From:turimel
Date:June 6th, 2011 06:20 am (UTC)

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No, I bet the web designer was a separate person. Recall that the Bit of Earth website was built by Ayanosuke and (I believe) Rakshi. The latter might not be correct--but it seems to me Rakshi did their "Prancing Pony Message Board."

Either way, Those Two didn't actually do any of the design--although they gladly took credit for it when asked. I'm sure Amy had to hire or con someone to make her power site for her.

I found the whole narrative about power and abuse to be remarkably descriptive of Amy herself. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who noticed it.
From:maltin_579
Date:June 18th, 2011 07:40 pm (UTC)

Re: Brittany's Family's Thanks and Concerns.

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>>>>>Anyway, FYI "Andrew" has moved to Denver, CO and has started another charity fan page using Brittany and her memory to get attention and money for him. He has a facebook page called "It's About Power" and a web site www.itsaboutpower.org. It is supposedly a site to prevent domestic violence raise awareness and as always some money and sponsorships for "Andrew's" continued adventures. The NZ trip is off and the new scam is a hike "in Brittany's memory" along the "Trail of Tears" in the South Eastern U.S.<<<<<

Bob, you are 100% right about this hike being a convenient way for Andrew to get gear and money for his "continued adventures." He's exploiting Brittany's memory to help bankroll an exciting vacation for him and a few friends and if his "organization" sticks around after the "trail of tears hike" I'm sure he'll do it again. He's asking for handouts (and some very expensive handouts!!) and excusing himself by including a note about Brittany's death with his requests.

This is all really sick and I'm sorry that you and your family have to go through with this Andrew issue on top of the tragic loss of your daughter. I'm sorry that Andrew Blake preyed on her when she thought he was her friend and changed her from the girl you raised under his influence. He sounds like a textbook sociopath, and Brittany sounded like such a good person... I'm sorry that she got involved with him and that things happened how they did. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
From:grannieof2
Date:July 15th, 2011 08:05 pm (UTC)

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I'm so sorry, Bob. There's nothing worse as a parent to watch your child being victimized and taken in -- except trying to live through her death. I can't imagine your pain at having to do both. I hope you and yours are able to find a way to deal with Amy, and to get through this somehow.

Peace.
From:deliciouspear
Date:August 4th, 2011 01:13 pm (UTC)

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Bob - I know words are hollow, but I am so very very sorry for your loss.

All "Andrew" took from me was friends and some cash - I can't imagine losing a child like this.

Please let me know if I can help in any way.
From:theclamsman
Date:September 25th, 2011 04:24 pm (UTC)

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Dear Bob (and Turimel),

I am deeply sorry for your loss. This whole story about Amy/Andrew simply disgusts me.

But also...I'm pretty sure you can't legally use a private person's photo or "story" to benefit your bogus charity, even if said person has passed away. The surviving family can sue for libel. Here is just one case link (but it's only one, and it's a case where a photo was appropriated for a commercial venture, so I would look up the laws of publicity, copyright and libel in your area). If you live in Canada, you would have to file libel claims here in the U.S. because of the SPEECH Act that was passed by the WH last year:

http://www.evancarmichael.com/Leadership/2143/Using-a-Photograph-for-Commercial-Purposes--Copyright-and-Right-of-Publicity-Law.html

Again, sorry for your loss. I would look into the above issues with that ~person~ exploiting your beloved's face and "story" for his own personal gain.
From:theclamsman
Date:September 25th, 2011 04:26 pm (UTC)

Re: Brittany's Family's Thanks and Concerns.

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I forgot to put this link in there too:

http://www.hllaw.com/images/78222PublicityRights.pdf

Probably not much help and may not apply, but it's worth a shot.
From:wolfine
Date:June 6th, 2011 02:49 pm (UTC)
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Not for nothing...but I am a visual person, and that power website is visually aggressive. Not the sort of thing you expect when someone creates a site to remember a lost friend! While you could argue that the creator is upset by the events and abuse in general, the whole site has a feeling of menace towards the reader. When it first opened, I thought for a second I had been re-routed to some neo-nazi page.

Colors and other visuals can be used to uplift spirits and stir people to your cause. The colors and images chosen for this site do not make me want to do anything but get defensive for myself and my family. The creators may have wished to put forth a feeling of strength, but clumsily botched it.
From:turimel
Date:June 6th, 2011 07:34 pm (UTC)
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Wow. Interesting perspective!
From:lauramcewan
Date:June 7th, 2011 02:55 am (UTC)
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Add to that, when I went to it, my malware program lit up. :/
From:kabuki
Date:September 19th, 2011 06:09 am (UTC)
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Holy effin' balls. I came across the Amy/Jordan story from an unlikely and largely unrelated link (something on another website about a woman scamming anthrobloggers), and I've been following the downward spiral for hours now. I am completely flabbergasted, because I was born in Fairfield and lived there for about 13 years of my life, and currently work there. I remember this story when it happened, and followed up on it, but didn't expect such a closely linked turn in the insane 'random' internet scammer story I was reading.

I felt terrible, at the time, for all parties involved -- and still do -- but this certainly adds a whole other sad layer. I've long been fascinated by scammers and con artists -- having been victim to a few in my time -- and it is a chilling revelation to see how such unhealthy relationships can ultimately pan out.

The really sad part, from the perspective of a con-victim many times over, is how these people really do pray on the overly empathetic and trusting. It destroys the last vestiges of goodness and trust left in the world, replacing it with the sort of ugly endgame witnessed here. The gunman was, of course, the person most in control of how this unnecessary scene unfolded, but one can't help but wonder at how differently the doors would have slid had someone not come along to manipulate the situation or, to quote T.S. Eliot 'force the moment to its crisis.'

I don't mean to victim blame, but, I guess, to be redundant, 'holy balls.'
From:turimel
Date:September 19th, 2011 09:28 pm (UTC)
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Hi, Kabuki. It's pretty amazing, isn't it? As a local, maybe you can comment whether the newspapers or police ever followed this up with any information about "Andy's" real identity, that "he'd" scammed other couples the same way in the past, etc. Anything?